Tag Team Debate Tournament

A Battles topic created by Soulcollecter57

I just recently came up with this idea and it can either be really fun and cool, or flop incredibly hard, but essentially there will be a tournament of 4-8 teams of users depending on how many people want to participate and they will debate against each other and choose the characters they want from a superhero pool that I have decided and after everyone has chosen their character, I'll randomize the names and have the teams picked, I will of course be participating in this tournament myself and my chosen character is Goku for obvious reasons so I need anywhere between 7 to 15 users to join so I can initiate this tournament. The debates will be conducted in the team battles page and I will create that page and it will be conducted under the rules that follow down below.

Ma
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When does the next one start.
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so
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@marvel500 I haven't decided yet, if enough people want it, (it has to be at least 8) and can promise to be FULLY active then I can start it tomorrow if that's the case, it depends when enough people want to join, it's a confirmed 3 with you, me, and @AkhilPDX, just need 5 more and I'm willing to start it.
Ma
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Ok cool. So when what time will tournament be
So
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After everything that took place yesterday and the day before, I have decided to retcon the rules, these are final and can't be argued or changed.
1. Scoring System is still the same as The Official Rules of Debate
2. Each debater can only defend their own character, but can attack either of their opposition.
3. After 3 days the debates for that round is over.
4. If a user proves incapable of defending their character their teammate can take over for them but that user has to agree with allowing it, but if they decided to do this, they cannot continue until the start of the next round.
That is all.
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wo
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OK, my bad. I wasn't trying to get my comment in at the last second or comment 'in the middle of the night when everyone was asleep.' I thought we were still doing the week long debate and didn't see the part where you changed it to 3 days, so I apologize for that. And i would have commented sooner, but I was away for a while and was unable to post my comment until I got home that night
So
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@Wolfdragon123, it's perfectly okay, the rules and everything were a bit confusing, I'll admit, but now I've simplified them so that there is no more miscommunications in the future, it was my fault not yours.
Ak
AkhilPDX 78 d
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The next Tag Team Debate Tournament should be Street-Level characters :D
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So
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That's a great suggestion, should prove very intriguing.
Ak
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I might have an advantage because my favorite hero is Spidey ;) - If you haven't noticed, I call dibs on Spidey. Plus, it'll be interesting to see how everyone debates when it comes to people that can't fly faster than light or punch hard enough to break planets or simply warp someone out of reality or collapse the universe or something.
Ma
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Can i join.
Ak
AkhilPDX 78 d
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Sorry, @Marvel500. It already started but you can join the next one.
Ma
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Ok can when is the next one.
Ak
AkhilPDX 73 d
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@Soulcollecter57 said that it might be street or mid-level characters so after this one ends. We'll see if some people are "dedicated debaters" when their OP characters aren't fighting.
Ma
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So what day does the next tournament start.
So
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Reiteration of the Rules-
1. Order will be decided randomly by me.
2. Each debater can only defend their character, but can attack either of the other users characters.
3. it has to be back and forth only one at a time and each user is limited to one comment per turn, so use your space wisely.
4. Even if one persons character loses then the debate is over.
5. Each debate has a one week time limit.
6. Each member of a team can only post one comment per turn.
7. Total number of battle votes will not be counted as a means of victory for multiple obvious reasons such as a votes pervious to the debates commencement and thouse who will vote with out looking at the debate, the page is only for a means to be organized.
8. Scoring system is the same as the Offical rules of debate.
9. The judge for the battles will be decided after the tournament is set up.
So
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Would anyone like to offer their service as an all time judge? Otherwise we'll continue with the original plan.
Ak
AkhilPDX 80 d
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@Soulcollecter57
What date is Day 12?
So
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Here is the schedule for the tournament, but before I would like to note that since it is a round robin instead of bracket style, I decreased the time limit it 3 days so that is doesn't drag out too long, so here It is:
Day1: Team 5 (@Soratoumiga and @AkhilPDX) vs Team 1 (@ElectroSpino and @AndreasVer)
Day1: Team 3 (@Wolfdragon123 and @SirSpidey) vs Team 4 (@Soulcollecter57 and @Manofpower) Team 2=Bye
Day6: Team 2 (@Dellmamy45 and @TheNemianLion) vs Team 5 (@Soratoumiga and @@AkhilPDX)
Day6: Team 4 (@Soulcollecter57 and @Manofpower) vs Team 1 (@ElectroSpino and @AndreasVer) Team 3=Bye
Day9: Team 3 (@Wolfdragon123 and @SirSpidey) vs Team 2 (@Dellmamy45 and @TheNemianLion)
Day9: Team 4 (@Soulcollecter57 and @Manofpower) vs Team 5 (@Soratoumiga and @AkhilPDX) Team 1=Bye
Day12: Team 1 (@ElectroSpino and @AndreasVer) vs Team 2 (@Dellmamy45 and @TheNemianLion)
Day12: Team 3 (@Wolfdragon123 and @SirSpidey) vs Team 5 (@Soratoumiga and @AkhilPDX) Team 4=Bye
Day15(Final): Team 4 (@Soulcollecter57 and @Manofpower) vs Team 2 (@Dellmamy45 and @TheNemianLion)
Day15(Final): Team 3 (@Wolfdragon123 and @SirSpidey) vs Team 1 (@ElectroSpino and @AndreasVer) Team 5=Bye
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So
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The days should go Day1, Day3, Day6, Day9, and the Day12 is the finale. If you have any questions or comments about the schedule, reply to this thread and I'll try to answer them. It will officially start once we appoint a judge for the debates, I was thinking the judges would be the two team members that have a bye so they can stay involved they would each judge one of the two battles happening, but I'm open to suggestions, just make sure that whoever is decided the judge cannot give their personal opinion on the battle itself and must read the Scoring System in place at the bottom of this forum. The teams will be awarded points based on this: loss=-1 point, tie=0 points, and a win= 1 point. In the event that there is a tie between two teams, it will go to whoever won the match up between the two, but if their match up was a tie, than it goes to point difference of all matches, and if for some reason that too is a tie, than they must debate until a winner is decided between the match up.
wo
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So this isn't going to be like a normal knockout tournament but rather a points to win type of tournament?
So
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Yes, it was originally supposed to be a knockout tournament, but with the addition of a 5th team I had to alter it to a points to win, but if and when I do another tournament like this it will be knockout but, but this one is a points to win.
So
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Similar to the world cup in soccer.
So
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@AkhilPDX, it just depends on when the tournament starts, but is it was to start today, it would be on January 9th, but that could potentially change.
Ak
AkhilPDX 80 d
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I have school that day. Can you change the date for us?
So
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I had messed up, day 15 in the schedule should actually be day 12, so on January the 9th, you and Sora have a bye which means you get the rest of the tournament off, so don't worry about school and is also the end of the tournament, so you should be fine.
Ak
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So no debating on the 9th?
So
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Correct, no debating on the 9th.
so
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@SoulCollecter57, will the tournament begin soon?
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So
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It will start tomorrow, I still have to finalize the schedule for the debates.
so
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Okay then. I'll be going offline now.
Ak
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@Soulcollecter57
Can I join a team with sora?
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Ak
AkhilPDX 80 d
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If he's okay with it...
So
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If I allow that, then it will become a round robin instead of a bracket format, which sounds intriguing, so I'll allow this.
Ak
AkhilPDX 80 d
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Yes. Want to join my team @soratoumiga?
so
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What team lol? I didn't keep up with this.
Ak
AkhilPDX 80 d
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We both have to pick a hero/villain and then we have to debate the other teams.
Ak
AkhilPDX 80 d
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We could do Fate and Strange...
so
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Aren't they a bit overpowered for these other superheroes?
Ak
AkhilPDX 80 d
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I doubt it. I mean, we could always do Silver Surfer and Scarlet Witch.
so
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Silver Surfer... maybe, but Scarlet Witch is universal+, compared to solar system to multi solar system level opponents we have here...
Ak
AkhilPDX 80 d
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True but who else would be a good match to fight these people. I'll gladly debate on Surfer's side, but you pick someone you would be good at debating.
so
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Idk which one... I'm more familiar with Doctor Fate kind of superheroes.
Ak
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What about Swamp Thing or Captain Atom?
so
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Both are above universal+... I might stay out of this one, but you could do well with Silver Surfer. He's really strong for Herald tiers.
Ak
AkhilPDX 80 d
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Come on! I need a teammate. Ooh. Surfer and Martian Manhunter. That's a team that'll be cool. Or Lobo (AKA- someone with regen).
So
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Silver Surfer is fine, look at the character pool and chose from there, or any characters close to that (Surfer was one of them).
Ak
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Martian Manhunter and Silver Surfer would be an amazing team. What do you say @soratoumiga?
so
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Is MMH okay or is he too OP?
So
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Martian Manhunter is NOT too OP, he is in the character pool so he is a closeable option.
so
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Oh, didn't see him there. I'll choose him I guess.
Ak
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Where is the character pool?
So
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Find my original comment stating the rules down below and follow the thread it should be right after the judge's scoring system.
Ak
AkhilPDX 80 d
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Thanks! PS - Ultron shouldn't be here since he soloed the Avengers :)
Si
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Wait, so this is a 2v2 battle?
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So
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Yes, it will be you and one other person versus another team of 2, I figured it would be a nice way to spice up debates and give this site something special and unique, plus I feel that it provides a unique challenge working in a group.
So
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First Team: @ElectroSpino (Sentry) and @AndreasVer (Apocalypse)
Second Team: @Dellmamy45 (Blue Marvel) and @TheNemianLion (Hulk)
Third Team: @Wolfdragon123 (Flash) and @SirSpidey (Thor)
Fourth Team: @Soulcollecter57 (Goku) and @ManofPower (Orion)
All I need is conformation from everyone, that they will be participating in it and we can begin.
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Si
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I'm ready whenever everyone else is
Ak
AkhilPDX 80 d
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In an actual fight- I feel like Thor and Flash got this. Debate-wise, I think Spidey will carry his team and Nemian will carry his team. ManofPower will also do really well but it'll come down to Spidey and Nemian.
Ak
AkhilPDX 80 d
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Fifth Team: @AkhilPDX (Silver Surfer) and @soratoumiga (Martian Manhunter)
De
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So down!
Ma
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Ill be ready around 8-11 pm tommorow
wo
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Team 3 is good to go
So
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All 8 members have been chosen:
Myself-Goku
Nemian-Hulk
AndreasVer-Apocalypse
ManOfPower-Orion
ElectroSpino-Sentry
Dellmamy45-Blue Marvel
SirSpidey-Thor
WolfDragon123-Flash
Teams will be assigned here shortly, @AkhilPDX, sorry you couldn't make it in, unless 7 other people decide to participate there just isn't enough room, but since you want to be apart of it, you can be the Judge of the debates if you like (don't worry, if this goes well I'll do this again in the future)
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Ak
AkhilPDX 80 d
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It's okay; I'll gladly judge :D
Ak
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Can I choose Ghost Rider/Zarathos?
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Th
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No
Si
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Yes
Ak
AkhilPDX 81 d
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So yes?
Ti
Titans 81 d
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No
So
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@AkhilPDX, I would like to say yes as a fan of Ghost Rider, but out of all the other characters chosen, they're out of his league unless you can prove during the tournament that he is at LEAST solar system level.
Ak
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@soulcollector
Ghost Rider's power isn't his destructive capability, it's his hax and the ability to override almost everyone else's power. Thor's god-blast can't kill him, Hulk can't really destroy him, and Goku can't really do anything to him. Plus, Zarathos beat the Avengers with Thor, Doctor Strange, and Scarlet Witch on it. Doc. Strange and Wanda are universal...
An
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According to Soulcollecter's given choices my first pick would be Apocalypse, then my second choice is Black Adam, my third option is Ultron and my fourth preference is Martian Manhunter. But if other users of this website pick them then I can stick with any of these characters.
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So
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8th person, @AndersonVer with Apocalypse.
So
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@Dark_Wing receded, meaning there is an additional slot open for anyone else.
Ti
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I'll take Starbrand
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Si
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How is that fair?
El
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Starbrand is way to OP, he effortlessly solo'd the Avengers while holding back
Ti
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****... hoping I could get away with an OP character
De
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Blue Marvel (Marvel)
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So
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Now only one more needed.
Ma
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I'll take Orion (DC)
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So
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Now we just need 2 more.
El
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I'll join, I'll pick Sentry. Hopefully, people won't downplay him like they normally do...
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So
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And then there was 5.
So
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Does anyone else want to participate, we only need 4 more people, you get to work as a team with one other user in fierce debates for supremacy, you'll get to be called the "Kings of Debate" and get to hold that honor until the next one where you'll get to serve as the final boss for the next tournament where you defend your titles as like an annual thing. It'll add some excitement to this site and give people who normally wouldn't a chance to hone their debate skills and then everyone comes out better at the end. I know it might sound like I'm hyping it up a lot and over promoting the hell out of it, but I truly feel like this can be something special, but it's whatever I guess.
wo
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@LordTracer do you want to join? Your boi Hal hasn't been taken yet
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Lo
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Nah, I'll sit out of this one.
Da
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What dose tracer have to do with Hal? But Anyways I'm going to sit this one out to
Si
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So
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So far there is only 4 people in this tournament
Myself: Goku
Dark_wing: Beta Ray Bill
Wolfdragon123: Flash (Wally West)
SirSpidey: Thor
I still need anywhere between 4-12 more people, anyone else want to join, make sure to read through all the rules and stuff first.
wo
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I'll take Flash (Wally West)
So
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Rules-
1. Order will be decided randomly by me.
2. Each debater can only defend their character, but can attack either of the other users characters.
3. it has to be back and forth only one at a time and each user is limited to one comment per turn, so use your space wisely.
4. Even if one persons character loses then the debate is over.
5. Each debate has a one week time limit.
6. Each member of a team can only post one comment per turn.
7. Total number of battle votes will not be counted as a means of victory for multiple obvious reasons such as a votes pervious to the debates commencement and thouse who will vote with out looking at the debate, the page is only for a means to be organized.
8. Scoring system is the same as the Offical rules of debate.
9. The judge for the battles will be decided after the tournament is set up.
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Da
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Can you first tag team be Wolverine and Jean Grey vs black panther and Storm?
So
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Scoring system for Judges:
Claim without evidence- +1 point
Claim with evidence- +3 points
Disproving a claim with evidence using evidence- +5 points
Unjustified insult- -3 points
Justified insult- -1 point
Stating a false claim - -5 points
If neither admits defeat and it goes to judge's decision most points is declared the winner.
So
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@Dark_Wing, that is not how this tournament works, you'll understand once I get threw with the ground work.
Da
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What ever happened to the rap battles or the gladiator free Style?
So
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Character Pool, first come, first serve-
Hulk, Thor, Superman, Green Lantern, Gladiator, Nova, Wonder Woman, Martian Manhunter, Shazam, Beta Ray Bill, Apocalypse, Black Adam, Ultron, Juggernaut, Silver Surfer, Lobo, Kilabok, Sinestro, Flash, Loki, Hyperion, Aquaman, and Sentry
So
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@Dark_Wing, I got busy, but can you please keep those questions on my profile page so they don't clog up this forum.
So
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If a character you want is not in the pool tell me who it is and I'll decide if they can be entered or not.
Da
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I'll be logging off for a few hours but before I go chose bata Ray bill he's the best
Si
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I choose Thor